Yo, Adaboy,
thank you for posting this. Your timeing is impeccable seein how me just started to build a six string travel guitar very similar to this. Now I even have an idea of how it gonna sound.
Thanj you,much appreciated
Padma
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:18 pm ] |
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Seen this clip and it reminded me a little bit of the shape of the wishbone guitars you've built. I enjoyed the clip and thought I would share it......... |
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| Author: | alan stassforth [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:09 am ] |
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Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:22 am ] |
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Yo, Adaboy, thank you for posting this. Your timeing is impeccable seein how me just started to build a six string travel guitar very similar to this. Now I even have an idea of how it gonna sound. Thanj you,much appreciated Padma
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:23 am ] |
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![[:Y:]](./images/smilies/smiley20.gif "Thumbs Up") That was great !I am prolly gonna chap some people off here , I dont mean to , just a lil point to be made. That was done 130 yrs ago with basic scrap wood , and no chaldini patterns , no deflection testing , no accepted norms as the "onlyway" a decent sounding guitar can be made . I am not against all those methods , so dont think im saying dont ! The point is , a good sounding unit can be made without . We can get stuck in the "accepted norm" and then lose the ability to experiment . Maybe every once and a while we should all get old scrap wood , a fence post and "play" a bit and see what happens ! ![[clap]](./images/smilies/smiley32.gif "adulations")
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| Author: | Darryl Young [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:42 am ] |
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"......neck from a fence post, ribs from an ox yoke, and top and back from grandma's headboard!" |
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| Author: | Frank Cousins [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:01 am ] |
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WudWerkr wrote: [:Y:] That was great !I am prolly gonna chap some people off here , I dont mean to , just a lil point to be made. That was done 130 yrs ago with basic scrap wood , and no chaldini patterns , no deflection testing , no accepted norms as the "onlyway" a decent sounding guitar can be made . I am not against all those methods , so dont think im saying dont ! The point is , a good sounding unit can be made without . We can get stuck in the "accepted norm" and then lose the ability to experiment . Maybe every once and a while we should all get old scrap wood , a fence post and "play" a bit and see what happens ! Just a quick comment... Thing is from the very first moment someone decided they wanted to improve the tone of an instrument they have used a scientific approach - we may misguidedly call the 'old fashioned' non tool supported techniques the 'art' in the build, but the fact is they just used different tools - namely ears and hands - now maybe not as accurate, or some may say they are better, but tools none the less. They just tapped and listened to conduct their experiements and recorded as much detail as they could - Sure we now have additioanl tools to do the same thing and perhaps more accurately and without the need to tune the ear, but the principle IMHO is the same. Personnally, as a Scientist, its in my nature to want to use the most acurate tools available, but I want to learn how to use the ones I have first namely the ears! 
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| Author: | Frank Cousins [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:02 am ] |
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WudWerkr wrote: [:Y:] That was great !I am prolly gonna chap some people off here , I dont mean to , just a lil point to be made. That was done 130 yrs ago with basic scrap wood , and no chaldini patterns , no deflection testing , no accepted norms as the "onlyway" a decent sounding guitar can be made . I am not against all those methods , so dont think im saying dont ! The point is , a good sounding unit can be made without . We can get stuck in the "accepted norm" and then lose the ability to experiment . Maybe every once and a while we should all get old scrap wood , a fence post and "play" a bit and see what happens ! Just a quick comment... Thing is from the very first moment someone decided they wanted to improve the tone of an instrument they have used a scientific approach - we may misguidedly call the 'old fashioned' non tool supported techniques the 'art' in the build, but the fact is they just used different tools - namely ears and hands - now maybe not as accurate, or some may say they are better, but tools none the less. They just tapped and listened to conduct their experiements and recorded as much detail as they could - Sure we now have additioanl tools to do the same thing and perhaps more accurately and without the need to tune the ear, but the principle IMHO is the same. Personnally, as a Scientist, its in my nature to want to use the most acurate tools available, but I want to learn how to use the ones I have first namely the ears!
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| Author: | My Dog Bob [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:55 pm ] |
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| Author: | Tony_in_NYC [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:08 pm ] |
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I am planning on building a parlor one day for my son who is 3 and a half currently. I am certainly not going to use the best wood available. In fact, I was considering using practice sides from LMI or StewMac to keep the costs down. And, since he will probably mess it up, I wont be too upset if he scratches up some "cheap" wood. My plan is to use black lacquer on the back and sides to cover up the fact that they do not match and leave the top natural wood. I have read about "patch work" guitars before and how surprisingly nice they sound, so I think this is a good way to give him a quality guitar, made by dad, without spending his college money. Traditionalists would have small to medium strokes thinking about using mismatched sides, but whatever works, right? |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:47 pm ] |
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pzwinakis wrote: .Hey Padma - The quote you have at the bottom of your post... "No way me gonna waist me lifes energy doing knock off, reproductions of some dead master luthiers resolved nightmare." Hmm, lets see... I build Selmer/Maccaferri Reproductions.. Do those guitars fall into the "master luthier resolved nightmare" category? If so, does that make what I'm doing a waste of my life's energy? I'd love to know your perspective, so that I could either be really insulted or just insulted... Thanks, Peter Z Well Peter, me can only speak for me, myself and I, Duh Padma which is what that quote is, me sharing me take on what me do wit me life energy. I accord you the privilege to decided if your life energies are being wasted building repros. No one can decide that for you, especially an old burned out hippy like Duh Padma. Thank you for inquiring as to my perspective. Do what thou wilt... If it feels good, then do it. You don't need my approval or disapproval to justify your brand of insanity and please, don't be confusing yours with mine. The bottom line is... you gonna do what you gonna do anyways. So the only advise you get from me is ...enjoy doing it even it that includes building Selmar/Maccaferri repros... Blessings Padma
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| Author: | DennisK [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:33 pm ] |
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Well said, Padma. From another viewpoint, it would be a waste of them old dead luthiers' nightmare resolutions if everyone just invented their own nightmare to try and solve... Lots of people out there in the world who would love to own an instrument from so-and-so, but so-and-so can only make so many before his time is up. Thus, reproductions are a fine and honorable use of one's energy, even from a logical standpoint, which isn't necessary since this is all about gut feeling anyway. And look at the violin world... not very often you see wild new ideas there. And that makes life mucho easier on the players, since it's so much about muscle memory. Then there are those who feel trapped in a soundbox if all we can do is build the same thing over and over, especially if it's someone else's thing. Padma's way ahead of me there. I'm rather fond of the traditional guitar look and sound, so I'm not changing things up too much. Plus being a noob, it's great for learning, since there's lots of knowledge available on them. But I still gotta mix up the woods, or the shape, or the bracing, or at the very least my little doodles made of wood and shell snippets that I put all over the place. But who knows, maybe I'll come up with some bright new idea here in 2 or 20 years and forget about tradition. Or maybe I'll be building violins. Bottom line is, if you're having fun, you're doing it right. |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:53 pm ] |
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Tony_in_NYC wrote: .... Traditionalists would have small to medium strokes thinking about using mismatched sides, but whatever works, right? Yes Tony me would have to agree here by quoting Duh Padma who has often said.... "if it gets the pig clean ~ use it" blessings Padma
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| Author: | JJ Donohue [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:10 pm ] |
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Why do I have this cosmic feeling that Jimmy Driftwood and the Padma are blood relatives? |
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| Author: | Darrel Friesen [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:38 pm ] |
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That's great, thanks for posting. I like the "Freight Train" picking near the end. This Gal does a great cover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vLXQh3qChM |
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| Author: | the Padma [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:05 pm ] |
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JJ Donohue wrote: Why do I have this cosmic feeling that Jimmy Driftwood and the Padma are blood relatives? Well JJ , thats interesting cuz me the black sheep of the family(ya go figure) but now if you were to be looking at me brother Vic and Driftwood out of the same eyeball, you would swear you seeing doubles...so you know...maybe. blessings |
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| Author: | WudWerkr [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:40 pm ] |
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Frank Cousins wrote: WudWerkr wrote: [:Y:] That was great !I am prolly gonna chap some people off here , I dont mean to , just a lil point to be made. That was done 130 yrs ago with basic scrap wood , and no chaldini patterns , no deflection testing , no accepted norms as the "onlyway" a decent sounding guitar can be made . I am not against all those methods , so dont think im saying dont ! The point is , a good sounding unit can be made without . We can get stuck in the "accepted norm" and then lose the ability to experiment . Maybe every once and a while we should all get old scrap wood , a fence post and "play" a bit and see what happens ! Just a quick comment... Thing is from the very first moment someone decided they wanted to improve the tone of an instrument they have used a scientific approach - we may misguidedly call the 'old fashioned' non tool supported techniques the 'art' in the build, but the fact is they just used different tools - namely ears and hands - now maybe not as accurate, or some may say they are better, but tools none the less. They just tapped and listened to conduct their experiements and recorded as much detail as they could - Sure we now have additioanl tools to do the same thing and perhaps more accurately and without the need to tune the ear, but the principle IMHO is the same. Personnally, as a Scientist, its in my nature to want to use the most acurate tools available, but I want to learn how to use the ones I have first namely the ears! Agreed , my point maybe not explained well was that we "occasionaly" need to step out of the norm and maybe by doing so we will solve another nightmare that needs solving , I am not against scientific aproach , By all means it works . However everyonce and a while , do it like was shown above , keeps our "art /talent" if you will fresh . Besides we might just have fun doing so 
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