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Author:  James Orr [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Laser engraved/etched wooden labels

I've seen a few builders use these beautiful labels that are laser etched or engraved on thin veneers instead of the standard ink and paper. Any idea where to have those made? Google hasn't been too helpful, or maybe I just don't know the best search terms.

Author:  Peter J [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 11:11 am ]
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If I remember correctly, Dave Fifield has a laser setup. You might want to PM him and ask....

Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 12:16 pm ]
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James I have mine done at a local trophy shop. When I get home tonight I can send you a pic of the finished product.

Author:  James Orr [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:24 pm ]
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I'd love that, Chris. Thanks. Is it a pretty common service for trophy shops?

Author:  Lindamon [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 2:25 pm ]
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Most trophy shops can take a file you create on your computer and laser engrave it.

Author:  Bob Garrish [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:28 pm ]
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There are a lot of laser engravers around. If you can't find someone local, I've worked with this guy a lot:

http://www.fastrubberstamps.ca/

(Hey, business names can be deceiving...he's done both laser engraving and cutting on wood for me)

Author:  Dave Fifield [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:41 pm ]
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Yep. I make and use laser engraved labels. As far as I can tell, since they are engraved, they should last "forever". They don't take long to run and are therefore inexpensive. Shipping is usually pretty cheap too, since they fit nicely in a padded envelope. PM me if you're interested. Here's one (of mine - I like to keep the design simple) on a tenor ukulele that I'm building right now. Sorry for the poor focus.

Attachment:
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Cheers,
Dave F.

Author:  Chris aka Sniggly [ Mon Jan 24, 2011 8:18 pm ]
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James Orr wrote:
I'd love that, Chris. Thanks. Is it a pretty common service for trophy shops?


Here is one of the proofs I ran through the local trophy shop here (laser work). I just use spruce and write the pertinent information in. That funny looking 'C' in the upper bout of my logo is gone too...that thing was an eye sore. I'll probably change it again sometime soon because I'm still not happy with it.

Author:  James Orr [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:44 am ]
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That looks nice, Chris. I love the finishing touch the wood label gives. I got in touch with Dave, and he'll be making me a few! I'll be sure to show them off when they're done.

Author:  John Mayes [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:46 am ]
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On thing to be careful with these sort of labels is telegraphing through. Many times you'll be able to feel a bump on the outside of the back where the label is. I've seen it on many McPhersons, as well as a couple different solo luthiers who have uses this type.

Author:  James Orr [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser engraved/etched wooden labels

John Mayes wrote:
On thing to be careful with these sort of labels is telegraphing through. Many times you'll be able to feel a bump on the outside of the back where the label is. I've seen it on many McPhersons, as well as a couple different solo luthiers who have uses this type.


Thanks for the heads up, John. Does thickness have anything to do with it? Are there thicknesses I'd want to stay away from?

Author:  John Mayes [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:26 pm ]
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James Orr wrote:
John Mayes wrote:
On thing to be careful with these sort of labels is telegraphing through. Many times you'll be able to feel a bump on the outside of the back where the label is. I've seen it on many McPhersons, as well as a couple different solo luthiers who have uses this type.


Thanks for the heads up, John. Does thickness have anything to do with it? Are there thicknesses I'd want to stay away from?


I think it has more to do with moisture from the glue than anything. McPhersons middle section was very thin (something like .030-ish). We tried a number of different things to minimize the bump, but it persisted. Our best guess was that it had to do with the glue as well as the time in between the thickness sanding and gluing of the patch on. Longer time in between the two seemed to be better as we guessed it was a matter of the wood getting heated up during the sanding and drying out the wood and then gluing the patch to that. That said even sometimes when leaving it sit overnight it still would happen.

I think the wood patches look nice, but this is one of the biggest reasons why I would never used one.

Author:  Tom West [ Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:45 pm ]
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Lee Valley at one time sold blanks about 2"x3" by about .010 to be used for business cards by woodworkers. They may still have them and IIFC they were relatively cheap.
Tom

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